Blogging is dead. PR is dead. Journalism is dead. Marketing is dead.
I’m beginning to wonder if declaring something deceased and in the ground is happening simply because we can’t figure out how to make something work for US.
Tearing apart something that doesn’t work for you is easy. Anyone can punch holes in something they don’t understand. Doing the hard work to actually determine whether or not it’s got potential is the difficult part.
Corporate blogging isn’t a failure just because people are screwing it up. Corporate blogging is failing because businesses don’t understand how to do it well. Whether that’s the fault of those of us teaching or the disconnect with companies not paying attention – well, that’s for another post entirely.
Patience, Grasshopper
I’ve spent a career in communications of one stripe or another, and never before have I seen such a thirst for instant gratification as I have in social media. We expect things to work right out of the gate, and sometimes we’re expecting that we can just chuck aside everything and do something different to “shake the tree”. And more and more, I’m seeing tools and tactics dismissed out of hand, simply based on critiques or popular opinion rather than an objective evaluation. (Heaven help companies who let Mashable or the Wall Street Journal determine what they should or shouldn’t do in social media.)
Just because the web moves fast, it doesn’t mean that results always do.
A New Lens, Perhaps?
“Old” practices are going up in flames all around us. But what’s also happening is that many of them are rising from their own ashes, in a new context.
We can make PR work if we focus on the story instead of the sale. We can make marketing work if we’re doing so through the eyes of what a customer wants instead of what we think they need. Journalism is evolving from a closed society to a renewed grass-roots effort that’s collaborative and fast paced, rooted in atomized channels scattered across online and offline. And we have a slew of new tools that make shifting our focus that much easier.
But not everything need be shiny and new. Perhaps it’s applying old concepts in new ways – returning to basics, if you will. I keep thinking of the movie Elf. Santa didn’t ditch his sleigh, there was nothing wrong with it. He just strapped on an engine to make it work better. Your newsletter might not be out of date, but your approach to it might be. There are fundamentals of communication that underscore each and every communications revolution, and this one is no different.
Do I believe that some things are antiquated and irrelevant and irretrievably broken? You bet I do (sorry pop up ad dudes). But more often than not, it’s our perspective and approach that needs adjusting, not the tools themselves.
So here’s the positive and helpful bit of this: please don’t dismiss things because of what you read on the web. Don’t follow the latest meme and buy into the idea that one size fits all. Please? Do your homework and do what’s right for YOUR business, not someone else’s.
Your turn now. Are we now in the age of truly burying old practices? Is it that those practices are truly dead? Or is this merely the dawn of reinventing them?
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Amber, thank you for this. Maybe declaring things dead is dead. Most professions hit a stage where they have to change with the times or go under, and history shows that the majority of professions change with the times. Most of us know that we need to understand this paradigm shift and make the adjustments. PR is not close to being dead. I talk to journalists who still want stuff mailed, instead of emailed to them. Twitpitches, SMR’s, and OPML’s have not replaced the ol press release in certain industries…yet. Whatever makes folks comfortable in furthering the relationship, be it old school methods or social media, is what needs to be the focus for all of us.
Amber, thank you for this. Maybe declaring things dead is dead. Most professions hit a stage where they have to change with the times or go under, and history shows that the majority of professions change with the times. Most of us know that we need to understand this paradigm shift and make the adjustments. PR is not close to being dead. I talk to journalists who still want stuff mailed, instead of emailed to them. Twitpitches, SMR’s, and OPML’s have not replaced the ol press release in certain industries…yet. Whatever makes folks comfortable in furthering the relationship, be it old school methods or social media, is what needs to be the focus for all of us.
Rowr. Big dig on Mashable there. Is this in reference to the twitter post?
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Rowr. Big dig on Mashable there. Is this in reference to the twitter post?
Geoff Livingstons last blog post..Two Case Studies Featuring LComm Work
@Geoff you know, not really. I was being cheeky. My point was more that the bleeding edge resources like that are more relevant to early adopters than the average business. And they’re as fickle as the rest of us. 🙂
Well I hope that the print media survives. I am slow to blogging other then for Myspace. I know that makes me either a bad person or what not. I guess I am slow because I wrote for a reason in high school and I am under the impression that you need to report the news.
I know that I am going to get a backlash here but I don’t want the print media to die. The Print media is dying in Detroit along with everything else. I would love for everything to coexist. I am going to start a new blog and I will write in a way to express myself. I just am slow to the process.
Well I hope that the print media survives. I am slow to blogging other then for Myspace. I know that makes me either a bad person or what not. I guess I am slow because I wrote for a reason in high school and I am under the impression that you need to report the news.
I know that I am going to get a backlash here but I don’t want the print media to die. The Print media is dying in Detroit along with everything else. I would love for everything to coexist. I am going to start a new blog and I will write in a way to express myself. I just am slow to the process.
Excellent post! It can be overwhelming — and discouraging — to try to keep pace with and digest the many news articles, blog posts and books about the changes in marketing and advertising today. Your post reminds us to step back, take a deep breath and think before we leap onto the latest and greatest bandwagon.
However, when you say, “Do your homework and do what’s right for YOUR business, not someone else’s,” how do you recommend small business owners and marketing managers begin this process? I have oodles of data on our clients. Interpreting it and learning how to tap into their psyche’s in a meaningful fashion is the $1 million question — or challenge.
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Excellent post! It can be overwhelming — and discouraging — to try to keep pace with and digest the many news articles, blog posts and books about the changes in marketing and advertising today. Your post reminds us to step back, take a deep breath and think before we leap onto the latest and greatest bandwagon.
However, when you say, “Do your homework and do what’s right for YOUR business, not someone else’s,” how do you recommend small business owners and marketing managers begin this process? I have oodles of data on our clients. Interpreting it and learning how to tap into their psyche’s in a meaningful fashion is the $1 million question — or challenge.
Angi Semlers last blog post..Shortages, costs force villages to rethink road salting routines
Excellent post — thanks for holding off the obits! I’m old enough to have lived through several cycles of “everything old is new again” and agree that the ‘need for speed’ in SoMe is short-sighted and self-defeating.
That, plus everything that Bryan R. Adams said (but funny.)
Excellent post — thanks for holding off the obits! I’m old enough to have lived through several cycles of “everything old is new again” and agree that the ‘need for speed’ in SoMe is short-sighted and self-defeating.
That, plus everything that Bryan R. Adams said (but funny.)
I’m with Brian. I think saying “Such-and-such is dead” has jumped the shark. To be honest, I think it’s done many times to stir controversy and create a swell of comments on a blog post or illicit numerous links back to your post from other bloggers weighing in on the “it’s dead!” post.
Sometimes I think it’s said with good intentions. Recently, I read a post by a blogger and SM guru who is somewhat prominent in our circle. I don’t know the person, but people I do know and respect speak highly of the guru.
The stance was that traditional media relations is dead. That calling reporters by phone was dead. The example laid forth was that she was pitching something that week and was going to pitch by tweet for one reporter, facebook for another one and email for a third one.
I was like, “you’ve got to be kidding me!” First of all, what percentage of American journalists do you think *actively* use twitter? Secondly, what percentage of journalists want to be pitched by facebook and twitter? Before answering, folks should read Steve Baker’s post today. Apparently some BusinessWeek Reporters freaked out this week because PR people started following them on twitter. Thirdly, I only ever pitch as few as three reporters if there is a local event to attend or something. For a general consumer story, though, I’m pitching every relevant reporter and media outlet in the top 50 markets, plus national contacts. (notice I said *relevant* reporters)
Sure, a few cutting edge folks are active in the space. But the VAST majority are not. So, I’m sorry, but phone calls to journalists aren’t dead. At least not for all of us pitching consumer and B2B reporters.
Sorry for the rant. My point is that most of these things don’t die. They evolve. Which is a very different thing (and what you’ve pointed out with this post). I agree wholeheartedly.
I rambled so long on this one that, for all I know, commenting may be dead by now. 🙂
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I’m with Brian. I think saying “Such-and-such is dead” has jumped the shark. To be honest, I think it’s done many times to stir controversy and create a swell of comments on a blog post or illicit numerous links back to your post from other bloggers weighing in on the “it’s dead!” post.
Sometimes I think it’s said with good intentions. Recently, I read a post by a blogger and SM guru who is somewhat prominent in our circle. I don’t know the person, but people I do know and respect speak highly of the guru.
The stance was that traditional media relations is dead. That calling reporters by phone was dead. The example laid forth was that she was pitching something that week and was going to pitch by tweet for one reporter, facebook for another one and email for a third one.
I was like, “you’ve got to be kidding me!” First of all, what percentage of American journalists do you think *actively* use twitter? Secondly, what percentage of journalists want to be pitched by facebook and twitter? Before answering, folks should read Steve Baker’s post today. Apparently some BusinessWeek Reporters freaked out this week because PR people started following them on twitter. Thirdly, I only ever pitch as few as three reporters if there is a local event to attend or something. For a general consumer story, though, I’m pitching every relevant reporter and media outlet in the top 50 markets, plus national contacts. (notice I said *relevant* reporters)
Sure, a few cutting edge folks are active in the space. But the VAST majority are not. So, I’m sorry, but phone calls to journalists aren’t dead. At least not for all of us pitching consumer and B2B reporters.
Sorry for the rant. My point is that most of these things don’t die. They evolve. Which is a very different thing (and what you’ve pointed out with this post). I agree wholeheartedly.
I rambled so long on this one that, for all I know, commenting may be dead by now. 🙂
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Ha!
Ironically “David Mullen’s last blog post” at the end of my comment is “Do We Talk Too Much?” Is that the Interweb’s way of telling me that I clearly talked too much on that comment?
Sorry, I just thought that was funny when I saw it.
Ha!
Ironically “David Mullen’s last blog post” at the end of my comment is “Do We Talk Too Much?” Is that the Interweb’s way of telling me that I clearly talked too much on that comment?
Sorry, I just thought that was funny when I saw it.
Amber,
Two observations, if I may…First, as you point out, there is a great deal of territory between “greatest thing since sliced bread” and “dead as a doornail”. Unfortunately, much of our society seems to consist of absolutists with attention deficit disorder. We apparently prefer only the instantly (and easily) successful. We are quick to discard everthing else, so that we can move on to the even newer new thing.
My second point is that in the vast experimental territory between the poles there are no guarantees for ultimate success, even for the most patient of us. Just because a technology holds promise, and is worthy of sustained experimentation, does not mean that it will ultimately prove successful. Some wells are “dry holes”, no matter how deep, and how long, we dig. We must, in fact, be prepared to “do the hard work” as you point out, but with no expectation of the precise rewards that we covet. Admitting that we do not know what we do not know, and yet that we still ought to proceed anyway, is not an easy sell to the accountants amongst us, both corporate and individual. Some things are more a function of faith and hope, than they are readily measured returns on investment.
All the best,
Mike
Amber,
Two observations, if I may…First, as you point out, there is a great deal of territory between “greatest thing since sliced bread” and “dead as a doornail”. Unfortunately, much of our society seems to consist of absolutists with attention deficit disorder. We apparently prefer only the instantly (and easily) successful. We are quick to discard everthing else, so that we can move on to the even newer new thing.
My second point is that in the vast experimental territory between the poles there are no guarantees for ultimate success, even for the most patient of us. Just because a technology holds promise, and is worthy of sustained experimentation, does not mean that it will ultimately prove successful. Some wells are “dry holes”, no matter how deep, and how long, we dig. We must, in fact, be prepared to “do the hard work” as you point out, but with no expectation of the precise rewards that we covet. Admitting that we do not know what we do not know, and yet that we still ought to proceed anyway, is not an easy sell to the accountants amongst us, both corporate and individual. Some things are more a function of faith and hope, than they are readily measured returns on investment.
All the best,
Mike
I’ve had this peeve for a while — declaring something “dead” just because something isn’t working, or you can’t figure it out, or you’re tired of it. Dead is dead, as far as I’m concerned.
There’s a total freakout going on with print media right now, especially in Detroit, and even in my neck of the woods a little more north. I’m actually working on a post about this right now. In a nutshell, I don’t think print journalism is dead, and I think that canceling most home deliveries most of the week and pushing journalists online isn’t the way to handle it. They just need to figure out how to differentiate the content on each medium.
Though I am a strong advocate for reinvention, I also believe that combining new ideas with old practices (and old ideas with new practices) will be the outcome of a lot of the current freak out.
Stacy Lukass last blog post..People like this guy need to be called out.
I’ve had this peeve for a while — declaring something “dead” just because something isn’t working, or you can’t figure it out, or you’re tired of it. Dead is dead, as far as I’m concerned.
There’s a total freakout going on with print media right now, especially in Detroit, and even in my neck of the woods a little more north. I’m actually working on a post about this right now. In a nutshell, I don’t think print journalism is dead, and I think that canceling most home deliveries most of the week and pushing journalists online isn’t the way to handle it. They just need to figure out how to differentiate the content on each medium.
Though I am a strong advocate for reinvention, I also believe that combining new ideas with old practices (and old ideas with new practices) will be the outcome of a lot of the current freak out.
Stacy Lukass last blog post..People like this guy need to be called out.
Could it be that the “death” of SM is a the result of it’s success?
We council clients to beware of the abyss. What we mean is don’t market to the mainstream as if they are Early Adopters. If you do your efforts will fall into the abyss.
As SM, blogs, Twitter, Facebook, etc., is adopted by the mainstream it will and should change. AS people see the change perhaps they are confusing this with decline? I don’t know but it’s a thought.
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Could it be that the “death” of SM is a the result of it’s success?
We council clients to beware of the abyss. What we mean is don’t market to the mainstream as if they are Early Adopters. If you do your efforts will fall into the abyss.
As SM, blogs, Twitter, Facebook, etc., is adopted by the mainstream it will and should change. AS people see the change perhaps they are confusing this with decline? I don’t know but it’s a thought.
James Hipkins last blog post..Effective Online Advertising – The Secret Revealed
GOD was dead 40 years ago. No really, GOD was dead. Marketers, and marketing wanna bes are the most fickle of people. Go with your gut, not what you read.
Lloyd Lemonss last blog post..Back to marketing basics
GOD was dead 40 years ago. No really, GOD was dead. Marketers, and marketing wanna bes are the most fickle of people. Go with your gut, not what you read.
Lloyd Lemonss last blog post..Back to marketing basics
This is an interesting discussion. What do you think of Steve Rubel’s assertion that all media will be digital within five years?
People are just dramatic. I don’t doubt that transformations do and will happen. But declaring something as “dead” doesn’t seem to serve any helpful purpose.
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This is an interesting discussion. What do you think of Steve Rubel’s assertion that all media will be digital within five years?
People are just dramatic. I don’t doubt that transformations do and will happen. But declaring something as “dead” doesn’t seem to serve any helpful purpose.
Julian Joness last blog post..Minorities & Social Media Usage Patterns
Amber, I am so glad that you wrote this. The problem as I see it is that the “instant gratification” culture that we seem to have (in the US) has extended into the business world.
PR is not dead, marketing is not dead…hell, e-mail marketing is not dead (just because someone might not like the 1-2% return!). Personally, I love the emails I get from Amazon.com. I might not buy anything at the time I get the email, but you can be sure anything of interest makes it to my wish list for a later purchase (and that purchase could be 1-12 months later). I’d be at a loss if Amazon stopped emailing me, it’s how I find great new books.
The fact is it takes people (consumers, partners, B2B customers, etc.) TIME to make a decision. And they want to know that the decision they make is the right one and that they can trust the company they’ve decided to do business with. And this was the case well before social media existed. There are consumer AND business buying stages (consumer: http://tinyurl.com/4bo8c4) and companies need to recognize this. With B2B purchases it’s a careful process because the wrong decision might cost someone their job, etc. We just can’t rush people through the buying process…but we can help them along in every stage.
One campaign isn’t going to do the trick and marketers/communicators/social media/PR folks aren’t one trick ponies.
The Philadelphia Social Media Club just met with folks from Philly.com (The Philadelphia Inquirer and Philly Daily News on-line) where we learned they deliver something like 500,000 papers a day (or more) in addition to their site/blogs. Do I think all of those people are going to run to a computer for their news anytime soon (or even in 5 years)…nope!
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Amber, I am so glad that you wrote this. The problem as I see it is that the “instant gratification” culture that we seem to have (in the US) has extended into the business world.
PR is not dead, marketing is not dead…hell, e-mail marketing is not dead (just because someone might not like the 1-2% return!). Personally, I love the emails I get from Amazon.com. I might not buy anything at the time I get the email, but you can be sure anything of interest makes it to my wish list for a later purchase (and that purchase could be 1-12 months later). I’d be at a loss if Amazon stopped emailing me, it’s how I find great new books.
The fact is it takes people (consumers, partners, B2B customers, etc.) TIME to make a decision. And they want to know that the decision they make is the right one and that they can trust the company they’ve decided to do business with. And this was the case well before social media existed. There are consumer AND business buying stages (consumer: http://tinyurl.com/4bo8c4) and companies need to recognize this. With B2B purchases it’s a careful process because the wrong decision might cost someone their job, etc. We just can’t rush people through the buying process…but we can help them along in every stage.
One campaign isn’t going to do the trick and marketers/communicators/social media/PR folks aren’t one trick ponies.
The Philadelphia Social Media Club just met with folks from Philly.com (The Philadelphia Inquirer and Philly Daily News on-line) where we learned they deliver something like 500,000 papers a day (or more) in addition to their site/blogs. Do I think all of those people are going to run to a computer for their news anytime soon (or even in 5 years)…nope!
Beth Hartes last blog post..Who made the social media rules?
it would mean so much to my sister if you could share your critics with some of her work. Obserr
It’s interesting that in a lot of cases the people declaring something dead are the ones selling something new. I work in Loyalty and this was declared dead quite a while back when “CRM” was new, and then “1-2-1” was new – its all about customer retention at the end of the day.
From a marketing comms point of view people have tried to hold up “digital” as something distinct – in reality it’s just another channel and the old rules apply.
I suspect declaring something dead has more to do with the PR it generates than something grounded in reality. As they say in the UK (from time to time) – the King is dead, long live the King!
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It’s interesting that in a lot of cases the people declaring something dead are the ones selling something new. I work in Loyalty and this was declared dead quite a while back when “CRM” was new, and then “1-2-1” was new – its all about customer retention at the end of the day.
From a marketing comms point of view people have tried to hold up “digital” as something distinct – in reality it’s just another channel and the old rules apply.
I suspect declaring something dead has more to do with the PR it generates than something grounded in reality. As they say in the UK (from time to time) – the King is dead, long live the King!
Mark Sages last blog post..T’ain’t What You Do (It’s the Way That You Do It)
As I wrote last night on my blog (CommentLuv has a lag in updating), I thought the Yellow Pages were dying…but then I find a 2008 study that indicates people are still using the Yellow Pages to find information. Including teens. I never knew.
None of your examples are dead. They are phasing from traditional norms into some sort of reinvention or remodeling, but they’re not gone.
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As I wrote last night on my blog (CommentLuv has a lag in updating), I thought the Yellow Pages were dying…but then I find a 2008 study that indicates people are still using the Yellow Pages to find information. Including teens. I never knew.
None of your examples are dead. They are phasing from traditional norms into some sort of reinvention or remodeling, but they’re not gone.
Ari Herzogs last blog post..Share Inspiration
I read a blogpost about Web 2.0 being dead, the writer seemed very frustrated. I’ve joked about this online and in meetings, simply because here in Georgia it seems 2.0 is just now coming alive. In fact, in my industry it seems like every multifamily management company is getting ready to dive in. They want to know how it will improve resident retention, new resident marketing, and their branding.
@Eric_Urbane is on the edge, and an example I look up to along with @ltrosien, @BethHarte, yourself and so many others. If Web 2.0 were “dead”, then you all certainly wouldn’t be doing it so successfully.
I do have to wonder where the term came from? Perhaps you can blog about that sometime? Who will determine when it is Web 3.0?
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I read a blogpost about Web 2.0 being dead, the writer seemed very frustrated. I’ve joked about this online and in meetings, simply because here in Georgia it seems 2.0 is just now coming alive. In fact, in my industry it seems like every multifamily management company is getting ready to dive in. They want to know how it will improve resident retention, new resident marketing, and their branding.
@Eric_Urbane is on the edge, and an example I look up to along with @ltrosien, @BethHarte, yourself and so many others. If Web 2.0 were “dead”, then you all certainly wouldn’t be doing it so successfully.
I do have to wonder where the term came from? Perhaps you can blog about that sometime? Who will determine when it is Web 3.0?
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It’s a case of the early adopters getting excited by the next shiny object and getting bored with the current one, which everyone else is still learning to use and implement well!
Bryan Person | @BryanPerson
It’s a case of the early adopters getting excited by the next shiny object and getting bored with the current one, which everyone else is still learning to use and implement well!
Bryan Person | @BryanPerson
Aha. Does it exist if you don’t know that it does?
“A tree falls in the forest…” and all that jazz.
olivier blanchards last blog post..Time to refocus, grasshopper.
Aha. Does it exist if you don’t know that it does?
“A tree falls in the forest…” and all that jazz.
olivier blanchards last blog post..Time to refocus, grasshopper.
I am happy to say that your first four sentences are entirely wrong.
Now I am not a professional in any of the four fields mentioned. In fact, I’m not a professional of anything.
Now I’m not concerned with how these things work with multi-billion dollar corporations. Why? Well, if they have billions of dollars they already did something right at some point. They just need to figure out how to keep doing it right (some have figured it out, clearly others have not).
Now I’m not a professional at anything, but take part in all four of these fields, or have in the last year. And they have made a difference in my life.
It’s incredible to run a small (very small) niche blog that has gotten me in touch with people all across the country.
Well PR brought me my 15 mins of fame. My first ever press release I wrote was for a journalism class at Michigan State. Well, I only got a 3.0 on the press release. But that very press release, my first one ever, made the AP wire. It was a good day, week, and year because of it.
Journalism… hmmm ok maybe I lied about this one. If anything I suppose I participate in photojournalism once in a while.
Ah marketing. Just last night my roommate and I were talking how nobody can say that marketing hasn’t affected their life. Marketing has served me well and found me new clients.
I think all four of these fields are UNDERestimated. As are most things I believe. It simply comes down to being smart, making wise judgments, and kicking a** and chewing bubble gum.
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I am happy to say that your first four sentences are entirely wrong.
Now I am not a professional in any of the four fields mentioned. In fact, I’m not a professional of anything.
Now I’m not concerned with how these things work with multi-billion dollar corporations. Why? Well, if they have billions of dollars they already did something right at some point. They just need to figure out how to keep doing it right (some have figured it out, clearly others have not).
Now I’m not a professional at anything, but take part in all four of these fields, or have in the last year. And they have made a difference in my life.
It’s incredible to run a small (very small) niche blog that has gotten me in touch with people all across the country.
Well PR brought me my 15 mins of fame. My first ever press release I wrote was for a journalism class at Michigan State. Well, I only got a 3.0 on the press release. But that very press release, my first one ever, made the AP wire. It was a good day, week, and year because of it.
Journalism… hmmm ok maybe I lied about this one. If anything I suppose I participate in photojournalism once in a while.
Ah marketing. Just last night my roommate and I were talking how nobody can say that marketing hasn’t affected their life. Marketing has served me well and found me new clients.
I think all four of these fields are UNDERestimated. As are most things I believe. It simply comes down to being smart, making wise judgments, and kicking a** and chewing bubble gum.
bugsys last blog post..12-19-2008
Great post Amber, hits the throwing the toy out of the pram syndrome that sometimes goes on in this space.
As you say, if something isn’t working there seems to be the attitude that’s either because it’s ‘dead’, or because it’s the stupid consumer who didn’t get the genius behind the idea. Perish the thought that it’s the marketers themselves who did something wrong!
Great post Amber, hits the throwing the toy out of the pram syndrome that sometimes goes on in this space.
As you say, if something isn’t working there seems to be the attitude that’s either because it’s ‘dead’, or because it’s the stupid consumer who didn’t get the genius behind the idea. Perish the thought that it’s the marketers themselves who did something wrong!
Gosh! That is really amazing! I am sooo going to get one 😀
Gosh! That is really amazing! I am sooo going to get one 😀
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