I had the great pleasure of meeting the inimitable Scott Monty earlier this year at the Marketing Profs Digital Marketing Mixer, and he was kind enough to spend the time and answer a few questions for me about Ford’s approach to social media. If you aren’t familiar with Scott, he’s the head of social media at Ford Motor Company, and you can find him on Twitter at @ScottMonty.
I think it’s super cool how this big, lumbering company is working so hard to integrate social media into their marketing (note the “integrate” part, and Scott’s response about that below…). So I asked Scott a few questions not so much about tactics they’re using, but anecdotally about how they’re approaching the social media space overall. (Scott, don’t think I won’t be pestering you to share some business results with us down the road…)Â There’s lots here, so apologies for the length, but it’s good stuff and worth a read. Enjoy.
Do you have a “social media mantra”, and if so, what is it? Tell us why you believe its so important to success in business.
First off, I strongly believe in the need to put strategy first. The tools are immaterial. What’s hot today may not be hot tomorrow. And for a large brand, we need to look at mainstream adoption anyway. So today’s shiny object is less interesting to me than the why and the how behind our communications efforts.
Secondly, for any business that’s serious about this, get out there and be part of these social networks as individual people. Are you customers on Facebook? Get on Facebook! Are they experimenting with Twitter? Get a Twitter account and start by actively listening. You need to understand the rules of engagement before you take part.
And finally, know that many customers simply want to be heard. You may not be able to solve every problem or adopt every product development recommendation, but if you can make it clear that your customers matter and that you’re paying attention to them, you’ll be ahead of the curve.
What do you believe is the single biggest mistake companies make when integrating social media into their efforts?
Ah – you’re assuming they integrate. In my time working in social media, I’ve seen too many examples of companies saying “We’re ready to launch the campaign – now what are we doing to do for social media?” It’s not an add-on or afterthought. It should be completely integrated from the beginning. Just because much of the interaction occurs online does not preclude offline components of social media. And if you’ve effectively planned from the beginning, you can integrate such ideas early on.
What have you found to be your biggest challenge in social media with Ford, and what lessons have you learned as a result?
When I joined Ford, I found my colleagues to be very receptive to me and excited that I was there. So much so that they did (and continue to) invite me to more meetings and projects than I can possibly handle. At some point, I’m just one person and I need to let go. My goal is to be able to distribute social media knowledge and experience across the company, while still acting as a conductor of sorts to coordinate it all and ensure that all activities are accoding to strategy.
Do you have an independent budget for your social media initiatives, or is it part of another budget?
I have a budget related to my agency and some limited work that I do at the corporate level, but since many of the activities are related to specific products, there are also digital budgets set aside in many of the product communications plans.
Tell us what aspects of a company culture are critical for social media to succeed.
First and foremost, there needs to be a culture of openness and trust. Companies that don’t trust their employees will engender a culture of fear, which further leads to individuals shutting down rather than engaging. And the concept of shared knowledge is important – “knowledge is power” has been the mantra of many siloed and political orgnazations. But the “we are smarter than me” model is the one that’s going to help companies succeed. Internally as a company, we have a mantra of One Ford: One Team. One Plan. One Goal. And to me, that perfectly states what we’re trying to accomplish with social media.
How are you integrating social media initiatives with your traditional marketing and public relations?
I’m much more closely aligned with PR, since I sit in the Communications area. But I’m also in regular contact with the Digital Marketing team as well. I work closely with both to ensure that new opportunities include a social media component and that the digital influencers are considered an important part of the mix.
How many people work with you on social media endeavors for Ford, and what departments/disciplines do they represent?
There are many. There are a staff of about 8 people who work on my team in the U.S. that handle web publishing and online/broadcast media, but I’m really the go-to guy for social media. There are people in Customer Service, Marketing Research, Digital Marketing, IT and Engineering, to name a few. Altogther, I probably have regular contact with between 75-100 people within the company that have something or other to do with social media.
With the overwhelming amount of tools available, how do you determine which fit with your overall outreach strategy?
For us, it’s largely about mainstream. Joining a large company has helped me to understand that much of the social media experts/evangelists have their heads in the clouds with respect to the technology. We’re so far ahead of the curve, it’s not funny. For my audience, blogs & Facebook are safe havens, and Twitter is pretty advanced. If I said “Plurk” in a meeting, I’d be laughed out of the room (or asked if I was feeling okay). And for our customers – people who buy cars – are the mainstream.
What advice would you have for a company contemplating an investment in social media?
Start by listening. Understand what’s being said about you (and your competition) before you decide to do anything. Decide if it’s right for you. If your customers or target audience aren’t participating, then maybe you don’t need to either. Be aware that because the tools are free or relatively inexpensive, there is a significant cost in terms of human capital; it’s not scalable and requries personalized approaches rather than mass marketing. And ultimately, just be yourself. Customers will appreciate that more than you know.
The million dollar bonus question: How does Ford measure and quantify social media success?
Very carefully. 😉
Currently, we use the Social Media Group’s Conversastion Index (r) to track general sentiment of Ford and our competition in key areas. We monitor the trends month-on-month for a macro-level view of what we’re doing. But we also track impact vs. cost on individual programs, and we measure the distribution of the content that we’re constantly producting via our Flickr, YouTube and Digital Snippets channels.
As we prepare to finalize our social media strategy, we’ll be in a better position to measure what matters against that goal. It may be the above plus some other tools; I have no idea at this point. But once we’ve got a goal in place, we’ll be able to determine what success looks like and how we measure it.
Special thanks again to Scott for taking the time to tell us a bit about what he’s up to over there. Tomorrow, I’ll talk a bit about my takeaways from these tidbits. What are yours?
Well done. Interesting topic at an interesting time for Ford.
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Well done. Interesting topic at an interesting time for Ford.
Cam Becks last blog post..Tough Times Are Coming
Fantastic interview Amber & Scott!
I think the biggest takeaway is seeing how well integrated Ford is with their Social Media strategy. I was amazed that there are anywhere from 75-100 people that have a hand in SM and that speaks wonders to how well educated the folks over there are getting.
Educating a company (especially one of that size) is a huge investment and key to ensure that your Social Media strategy is being properly integrated within the entire business.
Cheers.
Sonny Gills last blog post..what makes a great community manager?
Fantastic interview Amber & Scott!
I think the biggest takeaway is seeing how well integrated Ford is with their Social Media strategy. I was amazed that there are anywhere from 75-100 people that have a hand in SM and that speaks wonders to how well educated the folks over there are getting.
Educating a company (especially one of that size) is a huge investment and key to ensure that your Social Media strategy is being properly integrated within the entire business.
Cheers.
Sonny Gills last blog post..what makes a great community manager?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience Scott on integrating SocMed within a large, established company.
What I truly appreciated were your points that a) SM participation takes a huge amount of human capital (i.e. is not “free”) and to that end requires the same level of strategic thinking as any other program; and b) that tools are not what matters.
I’m curious though as to what your plans are to integrate SM within the main Ford properties vs. having them stand alone within different channels, all of the ones you listed – Twitter, Flickr, YouTube, Digital Snippets – are proprietary to a third-party and ultimately don’t truly link back to Ford digitally/ organically.
Cheers,
T
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience Scott on integrating SocMed within a large, established company.
What I truly appreciated were your points that a) SM participation takes a huge amount of human capital (i.e. is not “free”) and to that end requires the same level of strategic thinking as any other program; and b) that tools are not what matters.
I’m curious though as to what your plans are to integrate SM within the main Ford properties vs. having them stand alone within different channels, all of the ones you listed – Twitter, Flickr, YouTube, Digital Snippets – are proprietary to a third-party and ultimately don’t truly link back to Ford digitally/ organically.
Cheers,
T
tamera kremers last blog post..Upcoming speaking engagement – Digital Marketing Conference in Toronto
Great interview, with excellent real-world advice. Just by virtue of hiring Scott Monty, Ford has shown that it’s a company that gets it and is committed to social media. And yet even in an organization with that level of dedication, Scott is keeping the tools simple. That’s a great lesson here: know your audience and let their existing habits be your guide.
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Great interview, with excellent real-world advice. Just by virtue of hiring Scott Monty, Ford has shown that it’s a company that gets it and is committed to social media. And yet even in an organization with that level of dedication, Scott is keeping the tools simple. That’s a great lesson here: know your audience and let their existing habits be your guide.
Kellye Cranes last blog post..The Time to Think About Your Solo Career is Now
I think Scott does a great job of emphasizing a key point that some companies miss: It’s not about what’s “hot”, it’s about what works for your business!
Great insight and I’m looking forward to the follow-up.
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I think Scott does a great job of emphasizing a key point that some companies miss: It’s not about what’s “hot”, it’s about what works for your business!
Great insight and I’m looking forward to the follow-up.
Katie Morses last blog post..misskatiemo: http://twurl.nl/m7b8iz @ariherzog has some top (10) LinkedIn tips! Sage advice.
“First off, I strongly believe in the need to put strategy first. The tools are immaterial.” And they measure results. This is what makes Scott Monty so good at what he does. He’s not fixated on tools; he cares about strategies and results.
Lewis Greens last blog post..Why Social Media isn’t a Requirement for Every Marketing Campaign
“First off, I strongly believe in the need to put strategy first. The tools are immaterial.” And they measure results. This is what makes Scott Monty so good at what he does. He’s not fixated on tools; he cares about strategies and results.
Lewis Greens last blog post..Why Social Media isn’t a Requirement for Every Marketing Campaign
Thank you all for your kind words. I’ll share them with my boss! 🙂
Tamera – thanks for your comment and for your observation/question. I believe all of those third-party sites do have links back to Ford properties (if they don’t, I’ll fix that). But it’s a matter of being where people already are, rather than creating something entirely new.
As we continue to branch out digitally, I think there may be an opportunity to aggregate all of these feeds on one page and give people a snapshot of what we’re doing.
Scott Montys last blog post..Young and (Un)Impressionable
Thank you all for your kind words. I’ll share them with my boss! 🙂
Tamera – thanks for your comment and for your observation/question. I believe all of those third-party sites do have links back to Ford properties (if they don’t, I’ll fix that). But it’s a matter of being where people already are, rather than creating something entirely new.
As we continue to branch out digitally, I think there may be an opportunity to aggregate all of these feeds on one page and give people a snapshot of what we’re doing.
Scott Montys last blog post..Young and (Un)Impressionable
@Scott,
Not a question of linking back, but one of SEO and relevancy to ensure the brand gets the juice vs. the third-party. I actually covered this off on my site back in April in regards to where/ how SMPR’s and other 2.0 content should be used. Check it out if interested – http://3i.wildfirestrategy.com/2008/04/23/smprs-whos-paying-attention-who-should-be/
Cheers,
Tamera
tamera kremers last blog post..Upcoming speaking engagement – Digital Marketing Conference in Toronto
@Scott,
Not a question of linking back, but one of SEO and relevancy to ensure the brand gets the juice vs. the third-party. I actually covered this off on my site back in April in regards to where/ how SMPR’s and other 2.0 content should be used. Check it out if interested – http://3i.wildfirestrategy.com/2008/04/23/smprs-whos-paying-attention-who-should-be/
Cheers,
Tamera
tamera kremers last blog post..Upcoming speaking engagement – Digital Marketing Conference in Toronto
This ought to be a must read for every business person considering SM for their firm. And, I echo “Decide if it’s right for you.” Shiny and bright does not necessarily mean necessary or needed.
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This ought to be a must read for every business person considering SM for their firm. And, I echo “Decide if it’s right for you.” Shiny and bright does not necessarily mean necessary or needed.
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Takeaway:
Strategy first, and that begins with:
“Together, we listen.”
Ray Schiels last blog post..Stop. Watch. Listen. Staying on Top of Social Media Issues
Takeaway:
Strategy first, and that begins with:
“Together, we listen.”
Ray Schiels last blog post..Stop. Watch. Listen. Staying on Top of Social Media Issues
Hi, Amber. I think this interview is great, and I like his insights.
The key issue that really jumped out at me is the dialogue about the importance of companies enaging authentically with social media — understanding the rules of engagement and not making it an afterthought.
I think this also speaks to a bigger issue — the sustainability of Internet marketing. I.e., as marketers, are investing in and building marketing programs that are sustainable, or are we just looking for one-off buzz hits?
I just did a post on the topic of sustainability yesterday on my blog, and one of the big guiding questions I asked was, “Is interactivity a feature or a focus.”
http://propellingbrands.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/building-a-sustainable-internet-marketing-presence/
This guy from Ford really speaks to that issue.
Thanks for this.
I’m going to be doing more on this topic and will likely quote this piece; also, I’ve added you to our blogroll!
Adam Needless last blog post..Building a Sustainable Internet Marketing Presence
Hi, Amber. I think this interview is great, and I like his insights.
The key issue that really jumped out at me is the dialogue about the importance of companies enaging authentically with social media — understanding the rules of engagement and not making it an afterthought.
I think this also speaks to a bigger issue — the sustainability of Internet marketing. I.e., as marketers, are investing in and building marketing programs that are sustainable, or are we just looking for one-off buzz hits?
I just did a post on the topic of sustainability yesterday on my blog, and one of the big guiding questions I asked was, “Is interactivity a feature or a focus.”
http://propellingbrands.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/building-a-sustainable-internet-marketing-presence/
This guy from Ford really speaks to that issue.
Thanks for this.
I’m going to be doing more on this topic and will likely quote this piece; also, I’ve added you to our blogroll!
Adam Needless last blog post..Building a Sustainable Internet Marketing Presence
Great article.
We just recently brought on a Social Media Manager. Scott has shared some key points that will help pave the way for us as we navigate the digital hwy. Thank you!
Alex Domans last blog post..Good Vibrations
Great article.
We just recently brought on a Social Media Manager. Scott has shared some key points that will help pave the way for us as we navigate the digital hwy. Thank you!
Alex Domans last blog post..Good Vibrations
Amber, Scott, this is great! I can’t wait to share it with a few folks and my class (gearing up for Spring semester). Scott, can you please come to PA w/the Flex (or HOT Mustang!) and provide rides?! LOL! 🙂 (I am spoiled to have been so lucky!)
On a serious note, thank you Amber for asking the Million Dollar questions and Scott for using the key words: strategy, measure and goal! ROI is based on the goals (an objectives <– my add) that were set previously…in that regard measuring social media is not as pie in the sky as people think.
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Amber, Scott, this is great! I can’t wait to share it with a few folks and my class (gearing up for Spring semester). Scott, can you please come to PA w/the Flex (or HOT Mustang!) and provide rides?! LOL! 🙂 (I am spoiled to have been so lucky!)
On a serious note, thank you Amber for asking the Million Dollar questions and Scott for using the key words: strategy, measure and goal! ROI is based on the goals (an objectives <– my add) that were set previously…in that regard measuring social media is not as pie in the sky as people think.
Beth Hartes last blog post..An Open Letter to Johnson & Johnson, Kathy Widmer, VP of Marketing
Amber/Scott – This is one of the best interviews about real world social media application for a big brand that I’ve seen to date. There are 2 important points that reasonate with me the most:
1) Scott’s point about how most of the new/social media community has their head in the clouds is one everyone would be wise to remember, daily. We’ve become so immersed in the constant (almost daily) stream of shiny new objects (Twitter, Plurk, Identica, etc..) that we lose sight of how far ahead of mainstream consumers we are. I’ve worked closely with Ford’s Detroit competition and can echo his sentiment about being laughed out of a meeting if you mentioned Plurk. We need reminders like these to keep us grounded in the reality of where the world is today.
2) Strategy, Measure, ROI. Ignore the tools. This sounds simple but in practice, not so much. Resist the temptation to jump to the solutions & tools phase.
Great stuff. Nicely done Amber!
@kenburbary
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Amber/Scott – This is one of the best interviews about real world social media application for a big brand that I’ve seen to date. There are 2 important points that reasonate with me the most:
1) Scott’s point about how most of the new/social media community has their head in the clouds is one everyone would be wise to remember, daily. We’ve become so immersed in the constant (almost daily) stream of shiny new objects (Twitter, Plurk, Identica, etc..) that we lose sight of how far ahead of mainstream consumers we are. I’ve worked closely with Ford’s Detroit competition and can echo his sentiment about being laughed out of a meeting if you mentioned Plurk. We need reminders like these to keep us grounded in the reality of where the world is today.
2) Strategy, Measure, ROI. Ignore the tools. This sounds simple but in practice, not so much. Resist the temptation to jump to the solutions & tools phase.
Great stuff. Nicely done Amber!
@kenburbary
Ken Burbarys last blog post..Twitter guide for businesses
@ Ken – I think Ken makes some good points about keeping grounded in reality here. And I agree with always holding our marketing investments to an NPV analysis — especially when we are talking aobut mature technologies and mature mediums. But such an analysis may or may not take into full account (and may or may not be able to quantify) all of the relevant factors that new communication mediums can help with.
In fact, I would say that there is some innovation that would never happen if we became overly-focused on the ROI from day one.
I think that ROI is critical, but sometimes measurement should trail, not lead — especially when there is compelling evidence (as with Facebook) that customers are there, even if we haven’t fitured out the magic formula for capturing value from them yet.
So I would suggest that as marketers we have a balance of qualitative — i.e., how this technology helps improve the customer relationship and experience with respect to the brand — and quantitative rationale when we pursue new mediums. And I would argue for making sure our management buys into the reality that innovation is something you just have to be committed to — constantly — and that ROI is something it may take some time to work towards.
Adam Needless last blog post..Building a Sustainable Internet Marketing Presence
@ Ken – I think Ken makes some good points about keeping grounded in reality here. And I agree with always holding our marketing investments to an NPV analysis — especially when we are talking aobut mature technologies and mature mediums. But such an analysis may or may not take into full account (and may or may not be able to quantify) all of the relevant factors that new communication mediums can help with.
In fact, I would say that there is some innovation that would never happen if we became overly-focused on the ROI from day one.
I think that ROI is critical, but sometimes measurement should trail, not lead — especially when there is compelling evidence (as with Facebook) that customers are there, even if we haven’t fitured out the magic formula for capturing value from them yet.
So I would suggest that as marketers we have a balance of qualitative — i.e., how this technology helps improve the customer relationship and experience with respect to the brand — and quantitative rationale when we pursue new mediums. And I would argue for making sure our management buys into the reality that innovation is something you just have to be committed to — constantly — and that ROI is something it may take some time to work towards.
Adam Needless last blog post..Building a Sustainable Internet Marketing Presence
Nice writing. You are on my RSS reader now so I can read more from you down the road.
Allen Taylor
Nice writing. You are on my RSS reader now so I can read more from you down the road.
Allen Taylor
What do you believe is the single biggest mistake companies make when integrating social media into their efforts?
*Not enough bloggers in the region to drive new Fiesta campaign, says Ford*
That is a big mistake Ford ME officials fall in. Many ME bloggers got angry for being diregarded this way. They started asking each other over twitter whether Ford have contacted anyone of them or not before deciding how big is the blog community in the region or not.
What made it worse is that Ford is ignoring the issue like it didn’t happen! It is spreading a bad reputation in one of their most important export regions.
Read it all here:
http://blog.thoughtpick.com/2009/05/ford-upsets-bloggers-more-no-sign-of-an-apology-in-the-horizon.html
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What do you believe is the single biggest mistake companies make when integrating social media into their efforts?
*Not enough bloggers in the region to drive new Fiesta campaign, says Ford*
That is a big mistake Ford ME officials fall in. Many ME bloggers got angry for being diregarded this way. They started asking each other over twitter whether Ford have contacted anyone of them or not before deciding how big is the blog community in the region or not.
What made it worse is that Ford is ignoring the issue like it didn’t happen! It is spreading a bad reputation in one of their most important export regions.
Read it all here:
http://blog.thoughtpick.com/2009/05/ford-upsets-bloggers-more-no-sign-of-an-apology-in-the-horizon.html
FadiPicks last blog post..Queen Rania & Social Media: Tips and Insights
I certainly don’t want pepper this post with comment spam, which is why I’ve responded to @FadiPick’s comment on his original post at http://blog.thoughtpick.com/2009/05/ford-upsets-bloggers-more-no-sign-of-an-apology-in-the-horizon.html?dsq=9214315#comment-9214315
Scott Monty
Global Digital Communications
Ford Motor Company
@ScottMonty
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I certainly don’t want pepper this post with comment spam, which is why I’ve responded to @FadiPick’s comment on his original post at http://blog.thoughtpick.com/2009/05/ford-upsets-bloggers-more-no-sign-of-an-apology-in-the-horizon.html?dsq=9214315#comment-9214315
Scott Monty
Global Digital Communications
Ford Motor Company
@ScottMonty
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