You think trust doesn’t matter in the online world? Take these two scenarios and tell me why it doesn’t.
Scenario A:
Making flight reservations through Orbitz.com, the illustrious online travel service. Select itinerary A, jump through hoops, enter payment info, get told flights not available. Go back, select new itinerary, enter payment info, get told AGAIN flights not available. Select last itinerary, enter payment info, get a credit card decline. What?
I contact the bank. Apparently, for every itinerary I went to book – even when Orbitz wouldn’t complete them – they authorized my card for nearly $800. Three times. Card is now frozen due to suspected fraud.
Contact Orbitz with instructions from my bank, stating that they need to call my bank directly to authorize removal of those pending charges. Spend an hour on the phone with an Orbitz representative across the ocean somewhere who is rude, impatient, interrupts me, and takes three separate phone calls to my bank to reverse charges THEY made before I can finally book my trip. (My bank tells me that it should have taken no more than 10 minutes. Total.)
Scenario B:
Ordering some merchandise through CafePress.com – a significant order for over $1000.
Because of a glitch on THEIR website, my order is screwy, so they contact me and ask me to allow them to cancel the order and start over. So I agree. They agree to give me free one-day shipping in return for the glitch and to make sure I get my stuff on time. Cool. I’m to place the order again, include the one day shipping, and then they’ll credit me for it.
Next day, go and place the order. Pay for shipping. Call customer service, who (after about three explanations) eventually finds the notes about the free shipping and says okay, fine. Complete said order (which actually involves again canceling the order and placing it again, minus the shipping, instead of just giving me a $40 credit. But whatever).
But here’s the rub. Today, I go to make a plane reservation on my credit card. Declined. WTF?
Call bank (I’m with Chase). Their fraud department has been flagged because:
* The original order that CafePress authorized but says they canceled is still sitting on my card.
* The second order was placed, then canceled again, then RE-placed to accommodate the free shipping.
* CafePress ALSO charged me for the order that they have since shipped.
So now I’m over the credit limit on my tiny little business credit card, and the fraud department (rightfully so) has frozen the card because there are now five separate authorizations and cancelations from the same damn merchant, only one of which constitutes the actual order. Nice.
The Resolution
I have to give a big fat shoutout to Chase Bank for this, which I never thought I’d do. I was actually reticent to join a big national bank, but in both the scenarios above, their CSR’s and Fraud Department went out of their way to resolve the issues. In today’s case, they actually got on a conference call WITH me to call the CafePress people and back me up. And when the original customer service rep got snotty, my Chase rep stood right up to her and explained that I was a Chase customer, asked for a supervisor, and reiterated they (Chase) were going to do what it took to make sure that I wasn’t paying for Cafe Press’ mistakes. (Right on.)
When we couldn’t arrive at a resolution on the phone because even the Cafe Press supervisor couldn’t manage to fix it, Chase got off the phone and reassured me that if Cafe Press didn’t call me back with a resolution, I should call Chase back again and they’d help me with next steps. CafePress did call me back a bit later, again conferenced on the bank, but ultimately it was MY BANK that had to suggest a resolution, not Cafe Press, even though they weren’t the ones who had made the mistake. (Chase even called me back afterwards to ensure that I was satisfied with the resolution). So yay, George and Susan at Chase. And George’s parting comment to me?
“You’re our customer and we just wanted to make sure you were taken care of. We’ve got your back.”
The Point
I’ve become distrustful of online merchants, mostly because I feel like they hide behind their lack of brick and mortar. Their phone systems are horrible to navigate (I can get to a human at Chase from the get-go by pressing zero). In these two scenarios, even though the merchants were the ones charging me all kinds of extraneous money, their reps were rude and defensive and unhelpful. As for Cafe Press and Orbitz, I‘ll never do business with them again. Period.
It’s not that I’m not okay with mistakes. Those happen. It’s that I’m not okay with swift, courteous, and responsive resolution of those mistakes. I don’t trust that these companies give a flying you-know-what about whether or not I’m happy, or inconvenienced, or anything else. I felt like a transaction number to them from start to finish, and I felt like *I* was inconveniencing *them* when something went wrong.
My bank, on the other hand, for being a massive commercial bank, took personal care of me. Addressed me by name. Made sure they had a phone number to reach me on so they could contact me when they solved the problem. Thanked me for my patience (and it wasn’t even their problem), And then they did something neither one of the merchants did – they thanked me for my business. I walked away reassured and cared for.
Trust matters. Customer service matters. It matters even more when you can’t see someone’s face, walk into their store or office, and talk to a real person to get reassurance that they’ve solved your issue. When you’re online, you have to work that much harder to get and keep the trust and personal connection with your customers. And when things go haywire – as they’re apt to do – perhaps we all need to think about how that need for trust and reassurance translates across wires and screens, and work that much harder to let people know that they – as people – matter to us.
I’ve sure learned a few things about how to help people in my role through all of this. And I’m thinking hard about how to keep bridging the value of people across online and offline worlds. What’ve you got to say?
Great word of mouth for Chase! I had the same problem with Orbitz a while back. Not going to go through them anymore.
Great word of mouth for Chase! I had the same problem with Orbitz a while back. Not going to go through them anymore.
I’ve always been amazed with the my financial institutions customer service department (both through Chase and US Bank). The handling of lost cards, fraudulent activity, suspicion of fraudulent activity, all handled professionally and in a timely matter.
It’ll be out of necessity that e-commerce sites focus in on customer service, if Orbitz is dropping the ball, one would hope Priceline will pick up the slack. Eventually competition will force their hand and the resources allocated (I assume the same has already happened in the consumer finance world).
Or the sites will just completely lower expectation and be proactive about their crappy service, much the way http://www.woot.com does:
“I want to talk to a live person there, can I call you?
No. We are busy sourcing new products and shipping orders. You can post a comment to our community board, but we don’t guarantee we’ll respond. You should Google for the manufacturer contact to get product answers – we suggest a dating service, magic 8 ball, or ouija board for general life solutions.”
I’m hoping for the former…
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I’ve always been amazed with the my financial institutions customer service department (both through Chase and US Bank). The handling of lost cards, fraudulent activity, suspicion of fraudulent activity, all handled professionally and in a timely matter.
It’ll be out of necessity that e-commerce sites focus in on customer service, if Orbitz is dropping the ball, one would hope Priceline will pick up the slack. Eventually competition will force their hand and the resources allocated (I assume the same has already happened in the consumer finance world).
Or the sites will just completely lower expectation and be proactive about their crappy service, much the way http://www.woot.com does:
“I want to talk to a live person there, can I call you?
No. We are busy sourcing new products and shipping orders. You can post a comment to our community board, but we don’t guarantee we’ll respond. You should Google for the manufacturer contact to get product answers – we suggest a dating service, magic 8 ball, or ouija board for general life solutions.”
I’m hoping for the former…
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That’s a terrible experience and just the sort of thing I’ve been worried would happen to me. That’s why, even though I’ve been online since 1997, it’s taken me until this past Christmas to purchase anything more than a couple of textbooks from Amazon.
After reading this I’m going back to my Etsy and Ebay traders and give them the glowing testimonies that they deserve. Thank you.
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That’s a terrible experience and just the sort of thing I’ve been worried would happen to me. That’s why, even though I’ve been online since 1997, it’s taken me until this past Christmas to purchase anything more than a couple of textbooks from Amazon.
After reading this I’m going back to my Etsy and Ebay traders and give them the glowing testimonies that they deserve. Thank you.
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I’d recommend Expedia for travel sites. They completly took care of me and went out of their way to help me when I was on my Honeymoon. There really is nothing like great customer service.
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I’d recommend Expedia for travel sites. They completly took care of me and went out of their way to help me when I was on my Honeymoon. There really is nothing like great customer service.
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Great post, Amber!
From a customer service/reputation/sense of pride perspective: I’m always stunned at the way so-called customer “service” often seems to start out on the defensive – and many times ends up putting ME on the defensive before the call is through!
From a sheer business/dollars-and-sense perspective: I can’t remember the statistic around how much more it costs to gain a new customer as compared to keeping the ones you have, but you’d think businesses would be smarter about retaining customers with the economy being what it is.
Your post makes me want to switch to Chase – and I’m not even in the market for a new bank!
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Great post, Amber!
From a customer service/reputation/sense of pride perspective: I’m always stunned at the way so-called customer “service” often seems to start out on the defensive – and many times ends up putting ME on the defensive before the call is through!
From a sheer business/dollars-and-sense perspective: I can’t remember the statistic around how much more it costs to gain a new customer as compared to keeping the ones you have, but you’d think businesses would be smarter about retaining customers with the economy being what it is.
Your post makes me want to switch to Chase – and I’m not even in the market for a new bank!
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Amber, this is a great set of examples of how customer service creates or erodes trust in an organization. There are so many examples of horrible customer service online, it’s refreshing that you had such a positive experience with Chase to share as well.
Have you been reading Josh Bernoff’s posts on the Groundswell blog about How To Be A Human? they’re at http://blogs.forrester.com/groundswell/how_to_be_a_human/
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Amber, this is a great set of examples of how customer service creates or erodes trust in an organization. There are so many examples of horrible customer service online, it’s refreshing that you had such a positive experience with Chase to share as well.
Have you been reading Josh Bernoff’s posts on the Groundswell blog about How To Be A Human? they’re at http://blogs.forrester.com/groundswell/how_to_be_a_human/
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I haven’t seen, read or heard of behavior like that from a bank, *any* bank in 25+ years…
The Great Recession. Bring it on.
-dave d
ps: I can now buy day-old pastry again. Haven’t seen that for 25+ years either.
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I haven’t seen, read or heard of behavior like that from a bank, *any* bank in 25+ years…
The Great Recession. Bring it on.
-dave d
ps: I can now buy day-old pastry again. Haven’t seen that for 25+ years either.
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Great post Amber! You bring up one of my biggest pet peeves about internet commerce. When it works, it’s great. You get what you want, you click a few buttons, enter your credit card number and- voila! Product delivered to your door and you never had to put on your big girl pants. HOWEVER, when it doesn’t work it’s like trying to pluck a strawberry out of the whiring blender before it all turns into a smoothie (well, that’s the image that came to mind… possible digit dismemberment and the chance that smoothie will end up all over your ceiling…)
What I thought was really telling about your post was your surprise and delight with how well Chase responded to your problem and how personal the experience was. Isn’t it sad that we have come to expect and settle for mediocre service from “large institutions”?
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Great post Amber! You bring up one of my biggest pet peeves about internet commerce. When it works, it’s great. You get what you want, you click a few buttons, enter your credit card number and- voila! Product delivered to your door and you never had to put on your big girl pants. HOWEVER, when it doesn’t work it’s like trying to pluck a strawberry out of the whiring blender before it all turns into a smoothie (well, that’s the image that came to mind… possible digit dismemberment and the chance that smoothie will end up all over your ceiling…)
What I thought was really telling about your post was your surprise and delight with how well Chase responded to your problem and how personal the experience was. Isn’t it sad that we have come to expect and settle for mediocre service from “large institutions”?
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Yow – just deleted Orbitz from my bookmarks. I have not used them that often and I’m sure not going to now. This is far worse than the mediocrity we have come to expect from some companies, and I guess it will take examples like this and much lost biz for them to learn.
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Yow – just deleted Orbitz from my bookmarks. I have not used them that often and I’m sure not going to now. This is far worse than the mediocrity we have come to expect from some companies, and I guess it will take examples like this and much lost biz for them to learn.
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Great article Amber. It’s interesting that companies have gotten away from customer service. Having great customer service is one of the best ways to get new clients. Technology shouldn’t be pushing us farther away.
I hate when I call some place and have to go through five minutes of options and when I finally pick one that I think is right and get to talk to someone, they still ask what my problem is and usually transfer me. Why can’t I just talk to someone from the very beginning?!
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Great article Amber. It’s interesting that companies have gotten away from customer service. Having great customer service is one of the best ways to get new clients. Technology shouldn’t be pushing us farther away.
I hate when I call some place and have to go through five minutes of options and when I finally pick one that I think is right and get to talk to someone, they still ask what my problem is and usually transfer me. Why can’t I just talk to someone from the very beginning?!
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Bad customer service makes my blood boil. There’s simply no reason for it – service based businesses haven’t just materialised, they’ve been around for decades.
There’s a huge element of common sense to good customer service, and your experience with Chase is pretty rare. I can’t imagine any UK bank doing similarly – wish they would all read this post and learn from it!
Bad customer service makes my blood boil. There’s simply no reason for it – service based businesses haven’t just materialised, they’ve been around for decades.
There’s a huge element of common sense to good customer service, and your experience with Chase is pretty rare. I can’t imagine any UK bank doing similarly – wish they would all read this post and learn from it!
A colleague of mine used Orbitz to book tickets to California for his family of 4, for a New Year getaway (we’re in Pennsylvania). He showed up at the airport to take his flight and discovered that, while his credit card got charged, the itinerary had never been ticketed. Which means, no ticket, no boarding. So he had to stay at home in Pennsylvania for New Year. Orbitz agreed to refund him, but that was it. Obviously not the best winter vacation he’s ever had.
A colleague of mine used Orbitz to book tickets to California for his family of 4, for a New Year getaway (we’re in Pennsylvania). He showed up at the airport to take his flight and discovered that, while his credit card got charged, the itinerary had never been ticketed. Which means, no ticket, no boarding. So he had to stay at home in Pennsylvania for New Year. Orbitz agreed to refund him, but that was it. Obviously not the best winter vacation he’s ever had.
Here’s another benefit to positive customer care. I am looking to open a new checking account and just reading this put Chase right to the top of my ‘to consider’ list.
– Martin Reed
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Here’s another benefit to positive customer care. I am looking to open a new checking account and just reading this put Chase right to the top of my ‘to consider’ list.
– Martin Reed
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Cringing just reading this post. It just kills me that all these companies are worrying about how to engage in social media, and they can’t even take phone calls correctly.
I had a similarly frustrating experience with Orbitz.com last week. They are completely useless.
Amazing to find Chase providing that level of service. Makes me change my thinking about them. Viva social media 😉
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Cringing just reading this post. It just kills me that all these companies are worrying about how to engage in social media, and they can’t even take phone calls correctly.
I had a similarly frustrating experience with Orbitz.com last week. They are completely useless.
Amazing to find Chase providing that level of service. Makes me change my thinking about them. Viva social media 😉
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All business depends on customers.
(That is, as long as we have a market economy. If we go the way of socialism, I would recommend civil service jobs.)